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Against gay marriage

Thank God for Canada and Europe, they provide for us many times the “don’t” on the big do and don’t lists of life.  Canada almost immediately started struggling with legal issues over polygamy and other non-traditional relationships under the consenting adult concept of marriage. Look it up.

I am not an evangelical in the modern use of the term, I am Lutheran, a mainstream protestant tradition one in which, I might add, has at my church, two women pastors including the senior pastor and we welcome gays into the church, as fellow sinners, though not into the clergy.

I am not nor have I ever been anything other than pro-gay rights. I had a gay partner in my brokerage firm that I recruited and in technology, gays are, though I have never seen or taken a survey, over represented per the population I suspect and in fact, the US technology industry would perhaps collapse without them due to sheer numbers regardless of talent.

Being anti-gay marriage is not, I repeat not anti-gay rights and no torturing of language or emotion can make it so. I do support the constitution as equal protection affords, through our laws, gay men all rights that I have including the right to marry anyone they want, black, white, Russian or Chinese, as long as it is a woman.

I simply believe that all evidence points to the defending of marriage between a man and a woman as something that strengthens society. Children need mom’s and dad’s. Gays can live together, love each other, leave their possessions to each other, they can and do have, at least here in Minnesota, domestic partnership rights at work and in the legal system. Gays can manage their affairs with little effort beyond what a traditional marriage may have to do. Wives whose husbands die can and do face some challenges in accessing all monies and accounts if they were too short-sighted to set things up right. Gays have a few extra steps but all can be put in order easily and those who claim otherwise are flat out ignorant or liars.

Demonizing by the right happens but it is extreme naiveté that leads one to believe that the left does not engage in this behavior in equal measure. Please read the posts and the rhetoric of the left on strongly pro-gay marriage sites which sport a shockingly high % of people who believe I am literally a monster as a Christian who is anti-gay marriage.

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Legislate at your own risk

Selfishness and greed are fundamentally human and constitutionally protected I might add. As is laziness, slothfulness, promiscuity and euphorianism. I do not fear these unseemly human traits, they have been around forever, no, I fear some group of people convincing the ignorant, the emotional or the irrational to vote away freedoms to combat one of the above for the sake of our own well being, whether the reason is for national security, religious or even global warming.

Our view of stewardship cannot be forced on another beyond obvious public safety. I may feel that we should force everyone to move to fluorescent bulbs in the house and legislate the banning of incandescent. You might decide that single parenthood rates have ruined this country and mandate tougher legal responsibilities on absent parents and decide to make divorce tougher. That guy might decide that all crops must be organic as the chemical cocktail we are spewing is surely ruining the world even though we cannot find the science yet.

I am for none of the above. Change your own bulbs, influence others to make the same decision. Stay married and support and love your children and encourage others to do the same. Eat organic food, extra cost and all, and persuade others to join you.

Legislate none of it. Be your own steward, set a good example, use your influence. This is modern stewardship. I will not advocate going down a path that will lead to massive central government control and ultimately oppression. It took nearly 10,000 years to get one government somewhat off the backs of their people and I do not want to give that freedom back because someone says we are in crisis.

There will be 10,000 more crisis’s in the next 10,000 years so we should keep any one crisis in perspective.

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On Darwin and human love

 

It may be that evolution can partially explain why to share, nurture, exchange, engage or teach others is satisfying, but not so profoundly as to be the strongest and truest foundation of love, at least not in any sense beyond the natural or instinctual level. The analogy to mammals training their progeny represents “love” holds water to a certain point but male lions kill the babies of other males to mate with all in sight, and female Elephants physically kick their own adolescent males out of the herd to sink or swim with no second chance. Once taught, you are on your own to die if necessary. This kind of love is very basic, even a crocodile, decidedly not mammalian I know, is loving to a point, and then the mother might eat the little ones once the instinctual “love” wears off.

Love of the philanthropic or altruistic kind is much harder to explain through the closed system of thought brought by pure science. Sacrifices of ones life for an ideal, is even harder. The great lengths very primitive man endured to care for elderly, sick and even invalids have a difficulty being explained by the simply natural. Care for other species, pets, or care for an ecosystem or the planet for that matter is hard to trace to a rat or a bat. Why would I have genes that make me want to take care of other species and even sacrifice to do so? Love beyond ones progeny that extends to all in the above examples and others one could name, comes from somewhere else I believe.

If you ask the world of science why the water is boiling you will get a complicated answer about molecules and heat transfer and so on. Its been said the answer may be that it is boiling because I want a cup of tea. Science has never claimed and does not attempt to answer the question the second way. Science is then fundamentally limited in the scope of its answers. Spirituality, the world of the supernatural, has rightly never been considered a part of the answer by science because science starts with a premise so obvious, it does not even say it.

Miracles do not happen. All phenomenon are natural. When this is your premise, your operating premise, you cannot use your science to disprove what is by definition outside of scope, nor can you use science to prove what is outside its scope. The idea that, for example, Darwinism is disproving a creator is absurd then. Those who believe that Darwinism has something to contribute to disproving God then have taken a premise and made it a belief which qualifies these folks as being Darwin fundamentalists, no different in any sense than a person who believes God created the world 6000 years ago is a Christian fundamentalist. To stay off track for a minute, survival of the fittest, evolution, call it what you may is only the best theory we have that fits the data we have and Christian and Atheist alike can enthusiastically embrace this theory for all time, or until a better theory comes along. It matters not.

But evolution cannot explain human love fully.

It cannot because, as we see, human love defies natural law in so many ways but since science has as its premise that there can be no supernatural, the answer science gives cannot be the whole story. If you start with an open mind and consider the supernatural as an option in your philosophy, now unconstrained by the shackles inherent in the premises of science, and you examine love, you will see the divine in it right away. I see the divine in the theory of evolution; others may not, I see the divine in human love, however it got in us, it is divine.

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